besides it being pseudoscience, what interests me about this is that even though it's something to do with the "qi" energy flowing in our bodies, that wasn't a problem for some members of my family or a special pioneer i knew.. new study exposes acupuncture as pseudoscience.
JWs love pseudoscience! Anything to distrust Satan's medical system. I've yet to meet a JW who will accept that homeopathy is bullshit.
Qi energy or not, they will give it a try. As long as there isn't any hand waving or chanting.
Ive even known JWs who have made their living on homeopathy and reflexology
enjoying the commentary on this board and up at night doing some research.
coming to grips with my new reality.
- hokey pokey.
Welcome!
Take the others' here advice and take. It. Slow. You will be doing a lot of reading, a lot of thinking and not a lot of sleeping for the next few months.
And whatever you do... I can't be clear enough about this... Do NOT spill the beans to your wife yet. Or anyone for that matter. Figure your end out first. You will go through all of the regular phases of grief and she will be concerned.. Deflect for now. We read a lot of stories just like yours and mine here everyday. Of all of the success stories, it is most often the ones who are very careful and play the long game with their spouses who have much better chances. Personally I spilled the beans completely after about a month, and now 2.5 years later I've still not convinced my wife to get out with me. We are making progress for sure, but that ONE conversation set us back years. I can't stress this enough.
Also do all of the recommended reading. All of it. Self education is your best bet right now.
ive been pondering my beliefs for a while now and ive come across things that i just cant accept.
i was recently walking with a christian who stated that the universe couldnt just come from nothing.
he said that the universe was so complex that it needed a designer, he also said something which ive heard before.
The laws of nature weren't made to match or follow a mathematical constant, the constants exist separate from nature. Nature just happens to be measurable by mathematical constants.
So to say that nature is so "finely tuned" that it couldn't come about but by a designer is false. Nature predates any and all mathematical and scientific observation and emasurement.
im at a crossroads my friends.
im beginning to feel that my oppurtunities to get my wife out are waning.
weve misssed many meetings she still smokes a cig a day.
Hmm tough situation! If she smokes even a little, does she feel guilty about it or fine? If she feels fine then she is able to think for herself. Build on that.
ive been pondering my beliefs for a while now and ive come across things that i just cant accept.
i was recently walking with a christian who stated that the universe couldnt just come from nothing.
he said that the universe was so complex that it needed a designer, he also said something which ive heard before.
Congrats!
It's funny, I think it was a conversation with an uber Christian that helped me realize I was an atheist, too. Just being able to poke holes in their arguments and reasons for believing... It's too easy.
or is it the things of this world?
for example, model coco rocha caught my attention this morning and of course she is a jehovahs witness.
she says, "my faith is everything.
I've seen her at some assemblies. You could tell she was just there with her mom, not regularly. Especially considering the attention she was getting.
underlining is mine.. march 6, 2012 letter.
pursue divine education:some of our brothers are pursuing higher education, feeling that they can acquire a measure of financial security.
as you are aware, the educational system varies from country to country.
Wow... Can we please get a scan on this letter? Any way at all? Very interested.
How can anyone say this isn't a cult?
this to me is simply unreal!
imagine having to answer the following:.
km 2014. awake march 2014. were visiting briefly to try to clear up a misconception that many have about this bible verse.
This is great! A perfect opportunity to get a believing loved one azking serious questions about the bible.
Thank you WT! More ignorant garbage, please.
i have heard that line of rubbish more times from the platform, especially around this time of year.
yet, given the number of children with few or no toys, about 90% of the time, they get little or nothing year round.
sometimes it is because of poverty, often induced because the parents are supposed to cut back on their work and pious-sneer or donate excessive amounts to the worldwide pedophile defense fund (or both).
I used to say that. I didn't get shit.
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
DS211, don't bother. You've mace a great point, which QC wikindly ignore and go on to make more absurd assertions to which he will will provide zero facts. If you're willing to play his game, go ahead. Many of us have given up.
On the bright side, this thread may hopefully have opened some eyes to the poor argument creationists can present. Just more baseless assertions.
